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Monheart




Joined: 13 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 12:54 am    Post subject: Monheart's Plotscripting Tutorial Reply with quote

It's finally here! Let's celebrate! or, maybe not, I don't quite have that much time. so I'll try to keep it short and sweet. I've spent the last 4 or 5 days remodeling my site completely to be more OHR based. so if anyone would like to submit thier own articles or games, or anything, write me at Monheartgames@hotmail.com Also, do the same if you see any bugs or broken links. Take a look around, there may not be much now, but there's more then articles to look at.

now, about the articles in particular. Most of you will probably think that what I've got so far (lesson 1) is pretty dumb, but keep in mind, that the right mind setting is also essential to doing anything efficiantly. Everything covered in my lessons are for a reason. Aslo, you may notice the unusual structure I chose for this particular article. This is because it allows me to get an idea of what the other person may be thinking and to correct on it. also, "Student" can be anyone, so if there's anything that confuses anyone, write me at the adress above, and I'll edit it for you. I may be lazy, but I do keep my promises, keep that in mind. This is a promise.

here it is.
http://www.geocities.com/pokeheart/index.html

That's my site anyway, but unless you can't read, (which you'd need to be able to do to understand the tutorial anwyay) the articles aren't hard to find. Rolling Eyes
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Monheart




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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2003 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lesson 2 is up. if anyone cares Pissed off!
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Monheart




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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 12:49 am    Post subject: Lesson 3 Reply with quote

Lesson 3 is up.

This lesson is the stuff that really takes the tutorial off. It begins to explain how complex (Variable) scripting really works. Please check it out. Especially if you haven't yet... witch I don't think anyone here has... At least, I've had absolutely no responce on Castle Paradox and I'm really getting Paranoid about it!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well there's not much one can say in response to this. No news is good news in this case. Around here an announcement of a potentially bad game gets a lot of criticism, an announcement of a potentially good game gets one or two posts saying "Cool, lookin' forward to it".

I'm waiting for you to get into specific fun scripts and scripting tools before I form an opinion. So far it's just been understanding scripting that's being taught, which is mostly good, though thinking of variable scripting as horizontal scripting is a tad convoluted when I can already think of it as variable scripting. But I do understand scripting a little more than I did before. So it's a success.
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Monheart




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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2003 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lesson 4 is up

Although, lesson 4 is real short and most of you probably know it already. I'm just glad it's getting SOME appreciation. Happy
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Tamaria




Joined: 24 May 2003
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 5:01 am    Post subject: Tutorials Reply with quote

Hey, Monheart! I just wanted to say that I'm glad that you are doing some tutorials. I was impressed with your "Cat Scratch City" game in many ways, and I think it's great that you are taking the time to help others learn plotscripting. I don't think there are enough tutorials available and anyone who pitches in to add to the available information deserves a pat on the back. *Long-distance Pat on Back* Happy

BTW: Have you done any fixes to your game in the past few months? I've been lost in Zelda World and am totally clueless at the moment as to what's been happening in the OHR world...except the many website woes. I noticed that it shows 0 downloads on the Game List...but that doesn't reflect the people who downloaded it before CP, including myself. I'll download it again if you fixed the speed issue, etc.

Keep smiling! People DO care, even if they don't always post!

---Tamaria
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TMC
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! I agree with you completely! Why does everyone write
set variable

all the time? It so time consuming, hard to read, and easier to mess up. Also, why does everyone declare all their local variables separately, eg.

variable (v1)
variable (v2)
variable (v3)

instead of in one statement?

But I have a question. What do you mean by "it's [using := notation] more accurate when the computer computes it"? How is set variable inaccurate?
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Cube
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone probably uses "set variable" because back in the day (November 1999), variables could only be set one way...With Set Variable. And I dunno, I like using Set variable a lot more for some reason...I don't find it messy in any way. Raspberry!
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PIcaRDMPC




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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, what about newer people to the OHRRPGCE, like myself, Cube? Do you think your statement would apply to us as well?
It really doesn't matter anyway. But Monheart, keep in mind that I plan on using this tutorial of yours if I ever have any problems with learning plotscripting (although considering my learning curve, I probably won't.)
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Cube
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 11:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Well, what about newer people to the OHRRPGCE, like myself, Cube? Do you think your statement would apply to us as well?


Uhhh...It's almost like you took what I said in offence, when I only gave a brief history lesson.......

All I said is (And what I meant) that because there was only one way of setting variables long ago, the people who've been around for a long time are just used to the old method. And of course, since a lot of the older people tend to be quite skilled in plotscripting, their skills rub off to the newer people.

Of course there'll be people who use the other way. It'd be pretty pointless if nobody used it. I just think that either way is just as effective. To me, I find it easier to read using Set Variable. The brackets just stand out more to me.


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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, no, no, no, no. I didn't take any offense at all. It was really just an honest question. This is why I get annoyed with pure text communication; it's hard to place the tone you want to place on what you're saying.
But you do have some good points, Cube. I'd have to agree, with what I've seen so far. Anyway...
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Etinyth




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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those articles are wonderful! Keep them them coming. Big grin
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Monheart




Joined: 13 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 9:47 pm    Post subject: BAD NEWS! Reply with quote

Oh geez... If I had kept up with the community and saw all these repiles, I wouldn't have slacked off, sorry. Anyway, I'm sorry for not updating weekly like I said before. I guess I got distracted. Anyway, to make up for it, I tried posting the next three lessons. well, I went to log out for a while, but I accidently closed the window instead, and In the time it took me to get back to geocities, somebody had managed to hack my account! they changed my password and secret question, so My tutorial is gone. not completely, but I won't have people going to a site supported by a hacker. Pissed off! So, the Tutorial on my site is no more. However, if someone else can find a way to support it that would be greatly appreciated. It's nice to know my work does have meaning.

Tamaria : I have done some fixing with TaoMeow, including the battle speed problim. However, I'm in the middle of adding yet another new animation (like the opening) but somehow the script editor or something has become buggy, skipping and ignoring commands for no reason. so until I can fix quite a few problims, my new version is publicly unplayable. Also, the download reads "0" because no one has been able to download it. this is because my computer is not letting me upload the file to this particular site for some reason. That was the purpouse of my website before today.

The Mad Cacti : I say that ":=" is more accurate because I know it's true. when working out a long and dangerous minigame script, I had to use some variables, but my script wasn't working until I replaced the "set variable" with ":=" aftwards, I didn't have a problem.

Anyway, I no longer have my website. so maybe I should try making another or something. all I know is that I'm quite furious about it. Pissed off!
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Tamaria




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PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2003 1:33 am    Post subject: Bummer... Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your recent problems, Monheart! Well, let us know when you get things straightened out. I'm still interested! Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2003 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm sure you'd all be happy to know, it was a false alarm. somehow my computer started acting up, and was really having problims with passworded sites. Somehow, I managed to hack into my own site (I'm quite serious, I did it accidently out of a panic attack) and I've retrieved all of my previous files, so I can instaintly rebuild the site exactly as it was with a new domain (something I've wanted for a while now.) once I figure out what's wrong with my computer. if anyone can sport help, it would be appreciated. Oookay...
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