Castle Paradox

[Shadowiii]

Ah, I misunderstood, I thought the commenter was to take into account both the fact that CP and OHRRPGCE.com are run under two different forms of leadership, AS WELL as their general pros and cons.

As for one person "ruling" over a single website, I'd have to agree with Rinku. For a magazine, or something that doesn't require constant updating and moderating, a single moderator is an excellent choice. But for something that requires constant moderating, and the moderating increases as the member size increases, multiple admins are definatly helpful when sifting through the 2,000 emails you get a day.
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[byako]

That's right, I'm appologizing for being a semi.

I just want to say that I partially misunderstood the question.
I did answer the question at hand (as seen in the following quote),
but I also misunderstood the meaning of the question. as being an attack on Fyrewulff as well.

I agree with Rinku, and want to add that if anyone can operate a decent sized site by themselves, more power to them.

[Bob the Hamster]

[Me]

Agh. James has once again shown me the error of my ways.
Anyway, I prefer the council of elders sytem over anything in this sort of a situation. The "dictatorship" model (which I would prefer to call a "monarchy," by the way) puts too much of a workload on the single moderator/admin and leaves the door open for personal bias. Example: here at CP, Chaos Nyte has said many times that he has wanted to ban Fyrewulff, but the other admins have prevented him from doing so (up until now, when he acted on a questionable breach of the rules by Fyre). A democracy wouldn't work because, if you look at people's participation in anything related to voting, it's pathetic. We don't even have enough regular members to really create a workable democracy anyway. So, yeah, council of elders all the way. But the door should be left open for some democratic practices, such as being able to, say, vote out an admin.
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[Chaos Nyte]

"But the door should be left open for some democratic practices, such as being able to, say, vote out an admin."

Ha!

With as fickle as you people are, Me? A few months ago there was a huge amount of protest to anything that made new comers feel inferior in any way, and now that those people have been here awhile, the recent "I want to see people do stuff" thread is nothing but the same former new comers protesting that newbies are ruining the community and causing nothing but problems. It's insanity, these people learn nothing from their mistakes.

Now, a general vote to limit the powers of an admin that didn't do much for the site, that I could see, in order to help them shape up, but the community as is wouldn't stand a chance using democratic practices to do anything worthwhile. /end rant designed to cause more discussion.

[Me]

You point something out about me there, though, CN. I am fickle (if I'm defining that word right). I tend to alter my opinions way too often, usually by a fairly drastic amount. I also tend to say that we should get along, then insult someone the next post. Like I just did with Fyre in a comment in his LJ. Said something about only wanting to get him to try to be nicer to people, then accused him of lurking around waiting for something flammable to be posted. I hate it how I'm this way. It really makes me unrealiable and inconsistent.
I'm gonna try, really try, to be civil to everyone from now on, along with stating my actual opinion rather than just rehash what everyone else is saying.
CN, Fyre doesn't like you calling OHR.com a dictatorship (I'm guessing you don't check up on ohr.com very often). He says that he will never let it become such. I believe him so far, as he has not banned me yet for insulting him. So maybe change your topic . . . again. Something like single vs. multiple rulers, maybe.
EDIT: That was Bobby who posted the notice about not wanting to be called a dictatorship. Silly me . . .
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[Iblis]

[Chaos Nyte]

dictatorship

n : a form of government in which the ruler is an absolute dictator (not restricted by a constitution or laws or opposition etc.)

Assuming that Bobby is the only other person with any power similar to Fyre's, and that his only job mainly involves hosting the website, yes, I'd say Fyre is a dictator. Once again, being a dictator doesn't equal evil(as many of you seem to feel O_o;, it just means that Fyre isn't held back by anything but his own feelings on a situation. And since this thread is being pulled towards talking about Fyre again and again, I'll probably end up closing it, since apparently aruging about different types of community governments isn't as intersting to all of you as it is to me.

One more try though-
A long time ago, there was "Gamelist" style webpage for the community, similar to the Gamelist on the Hamster Republic. People could post their games(well, link their game and include a screenshot and description), but the site wasn't directly related to any sort of message board. Personally, it was an intersting time for me, because while I didn't see any of the background conversation, I was exposed to the final product, the games themselves. Which brings me to the question, do you feel that community forums, and community sites for that matter, are good things? What if all we had as a place to post games, so the only way you could get in contact with an author was to email him?

On the one hand, there wouldn't be any more fighting between members, and the community would probably be more productive gamewise, but it would also kill any chance for game designers to learn and grow together.

So what do you think? Are multiple forums, gamelists, livejournals, and mIRC too much for the community? Do you find yourself thinking that if their was less conversation in the community you'd be better or worse off? And in this case, I define worse off as "less productive on game design". The other benefits of any community are always friends and a feeling of belonging, so it isn't actually needed that the community have a site for those reasons, since you can find them in any community.

[Fenrir-Lunaris]

CN...

In the 5+ years I've been using the OHRRPGCE I've produced roughly 5 1/2 complete games (LoC1, LoC2, FFR, TS1, FFH both versions), with an average of one game a year, usually released around december 25, as is my custom. This year, which I believe is the 5th, I have no such game to show for. This year is also the only year out of those 5 that I have been actively involved in the community, that is posting at CP.

Draw your own conclusions.

[Eggie]

[Chaos Nyte]

"Also, Dictator is too aggressive of a word. Monomaster is a better one."

Well let's see, dictator is the proper word according to the dictionary, while "monomaster" is a word you just made up. Honestly, "monomaster"? Are you trying to be stupid?

I swear Eggie, you are so lucky Castle Paradox isn't a dictatorship, or I'd have just banned you for sheer idiotcy. Honestly, monomaster. >_< Oy vay.

[Uncommon]

The problem with elections is that people choose who wins.
Oh, and oligarchies (rule by council) rock your freaking socks off.