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Ronin Catholic
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Buy my game:
https://cheeseforge.itch.io/athe-quest
It sells for one dollar and is worth every penny.
Sometimes I put it on sale for 69% off to be funny and also this gives you a chance to get it for a steal. Keep an eye on it if you want to save yourself a couple quarters.
Tipping is not just acceptable, but encouraged.
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Charbile
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| Spoon Weaver wrote: | The Real Steps!
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STEP ZERO:
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Ronin Catholic
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| Charbile wrote: | STEP ZERO:
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And most people in this community are too caught up on making a game specifically to impress other members of the community and forget to make the game good in general.
Flashy scripting to reinvent the basic navigation and text display can impress people who know about the coding language, but mean nothing to anyone who isn't a developer within the engine's community.
Big walkabouts can give you room to give better character expressions and body language, but just making 30 or 40 pixel tall stickmen and robots for the sake of making them taller than a single map tile doesn't really accomplish anything beyond making them taller than 20 pixels.
Incestuous community in-jokes like every milkshake being a secret milkshake, dinosaurs always coming in triples, and cameos from forum-goers as NPCs in your games can be quite distracting and confusing to anyone not in the know already.
Basically, never forget that any game can be someone's first - I apparently did a good enough job with the way OHRodents presented its murine cast that people who'd never seen an OHR game before were able to follow along just fine.
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Spoon Weaver
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| Ronin Catholic wrote: | | Charbile wrote: | STEP ZERO:
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And most people in this community are too caught up on making a game specifically to impress other members of the community and forget to make the game good in general.
Flashy scripting to reinvent the basic navigation and text display can impress people who know about the coding language, but mean nothing to anyone who isn't a developer within the engine's community.
Big walkabouts can give you room to give better character expressions and body language, but just making 30 or 40 pixel tall stickmen and robots for the sake of making them taller than a single map tile doesn't really accomplish anything beyond making them taller than 20 pixels.
Incestuous community in-jokes like every milkshake being a secret milkshake, dinosaurs always coming in triples, and cameos from forum-goers as NPCs in your games can be quite distracting and confusing to anyone not in the know already.
Basically, never forget that any game can be someone's first - I apparently did a good enough job with the way OHRodents presented its murine cast that people who'd never seen an OHR game before were able to follow along just fine. |
A wise men once said, listen not to the fisherman for lesson in woodcutting.
There's also, let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
You're throwing around a lot of hate and criticism for someone known to do exactly what you're preaching.
Where's your big walkabouts game?
Aren't most of your games "in-jokes"? |
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Charbile
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| Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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As is the ancient flame custom, i shall now line by line you.
| Ronin Catholic wrote: |
And most people in this community are too caught up on making a game specifically to impress other members of the community and forget to make the game good in general.
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I often make games with other ohr users as the target audience for contests. It's important to have an audience in mind when selling games. It's even more important to be a part of that audience. Never make a game you wouldn't want to play if someone else made it.
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Flashy scripting to reinvent the basic navigation and text display can impress people who know about the coding language, but mean nothing to anyone who isn't a developer within the engine's community.
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True, but so is non developers being unimpressed with basic navigation and text displays too.
| Ronin Catholic wrote: |
Big walkabouts can give you room to give better character expressions and body language, but just making 30 or 40 pixel tall stickmen and robots for the sake of making them taller than a single map tile doesn't really accomplish anything beyond making them taller than 20 pixels.
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this is technically very true--do you have something against characters fatter than the basic tile size??
| Ronin Catholic wrote: |
Incestuous community in-jokes like every milkshake being a secret milkshake, dinosaurs always coming in triples, and cameos from forum-goers as NPCs in your games can be quite distracting and confusing to anyone not in the know already.
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with that, i don't believe the intent was ever to sell the game or humor anyone outside the in jokes, though
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Basically, never forget that any game can be someone's first - I apparently did a good enough job with the way OHRodents presented its murine cast that people who'd never seen an OHR game before were able to follow along just fine. |
but what can you do to turn OHRodents into a commercial game? |
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Spoon Weaver
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My game will sell much more than yours!
My game is so big and great it and get up and walk, right through a door!
With a concept so pure, it'll have you scream back for more! |
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