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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Recent maptile attempt Reply with quote

Here's my attempt at making map tiles. I haven't made map tiles in quite some time and I'd appreciate any feedback.



EDIT: Oh, just to get more specific feedback, the time period and architectural style I'm going for for this city is mid-1800's London with steampunk technology. Is there anything that seems wrong about these tiles in that context? Is there anything this house is missing that would be a must in such a place?

I wanted to make each house look unique as possible while maintaining a consistent architectural style. Any suggestions? I have 8 different kinds of windows, several different door styles, and I'm planning on making another roof and brick color. I also want the tiles to allow for a lot of customization of design (mostly regarding the size and shape of each building) and make each building look like what they are supposed to be (e.g. a shop and house would look pretty different).
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are incredible! I love it. Many things about this are done right, mainly the parts where you're better at making maptiles than me.

My first suggestion depends on what kind of scene this is though, and just involves changing colors (not hard at all). If this is a nighttime scene, you may want to tone down the brightness of the gray bricks and rims a few notches to better match the darkness of the rest of the house.

My second suggestion is also minor, but the way you shaded the doors make them look kind of like cylinders.

Other than that, it's really hard to top these tiles.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not night, BUT it is supposed to be a town that is constantly overcast. I definitely see what you're saying though and I wish I would've made them darker. But odds are I will leave them because I am too lazy to make the change on that many tiles.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply amazing. The shading on the white concrete part of the house is beautiful, I've seen houses that look like this, and I can instantly place what it is I'm looking at with a real life example. The brightest color of blue on the roof might be a smidge too bright, but that could just be my screen. I also really like how you were able to convey the sense of depth of each "wing" of the building. I also have seen a lot of doors that have a lighter spot in the middle like that, and they're beautiful the way they are. I wouldn't necessarily change those.

My only concern is the shadow around the bottom. Combined with the staircase, it makes the house look like it's levitating 3 feet in the air, which, is actually kind of a cool idea.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you haven't gotten one of these yet, pick up a copy of the Merriam-Webster's Visual Dictionary and check out the section for architecture. It offers full colored pictures with labeled parts, breakdowns of parts, and basically opens up a whole new world of information you might never think to look for. It might be one of the best dictionaries ever, as using it makes you feel a lot smarter. Using it might also help you implement new ideas for your other houses.

It comes in hardcover and pocket size (I believe).

But yes, very nice. I can't see the shadows, though. It's quite dark on my screen. The rest looks fine to me. Especially those windows.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Made some changes based on the feedback I was given. This isn't a real map so ignore the poor shadowing on the bricks of the house.



Changes I made:

-removed brightest colors from roof tiles
- added sidewalks and some extra road tiles for flavor (are sidewalks a good idea? I'm torn. Maybe another kind of stone instead of making it look like cement? Also, the gray bricks on the house blend into the sidewalk too much, I'll probably darken them. )
- new window types, new window color, new window/door trim
- Got rid of house shadow
- Made the different sections of the roof connect more realistically. Not sure it's worth it though since the roof now takes up a lot of space. Not even sure I like the way it looks.
- Added rails for steps

If I made any other changes, I can't remember them. Let me know what you think.

Things I plan to do for sure:
-Dark Gray house bricks
-Green roof tiles
-Fancier rails for stairs
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, those are really great. I love the dithering on it, as well as the new angle of the roof shingles, but i dont think you need to darken the brick tiles, everythings so dark anyways.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think I like the side walk truthfully. Other than that, they're beautiful.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jabbercat wrote:
I don't think I like the side walk truthfully. Other than that, they're beautiful.


Hmm... I like the 'Border' side walk but I don't know if I like the squares around the building, I think it should just be a plain color.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wow, those are really great. I love the dithering on it, as well as the new angle of the roof shingles, but i dont think you need to darken the brick tiles, everythings so dark anyways.


This has been a problem for me with the OHRRPGCE. On my computer none of the graphics look too dark and the same goes for most other computers I've viewed them on. But I know on my old computer these graphics were way too dark. I don't know what to do about that really.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going for an 1800s vibe, I think cobblestone would be better than cement. It just kind of modernized the map a little too much for my tastes. Maybe even red bricks? A gas streetlamp would be bitchin' too.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This has been a problem for me with the OHRRPGCE. On my computer none of the graphics look too dark and the same goes for most other computers I've viewed them on. But I know on my old computer these graphics were way too dark. I don't know what to do about that really.
You may need to adjust your monitor somehow.

I still think the light grey base and edges are too bright. As the scene is getting lighter colored, you may actually need to brighten the inside bricks to better match the contrast.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If you are going for an 1800s vibe, I think cobblestone would be better than cement. It just kind of modernized the map a little too much for my tastes. Maybe even red bricks? A gas streetlamp would be bitchin' too.


Yeah, I know. It was too weird so I've already changed it to cobblestone.

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I still think the light grey base and edges are too bright. As the scene is getting lighter colored, you may actually need to brighten the inside bricks to better match the contrast.


Did both those things. I'll post some pictures soon, I want to add more map features. I like the streetlamp idea so I'll probably add that in. Pipes will need to be a major feature but I'm still trying to figure out how to throw those in.

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You may need to adjust your monitor somehow.


I adjusted the contrast and gamma already but the changes were semi-minor.

EDIT: UPDATE



New brick color (old one is still around too), new sidewalk, new roof, sewer plates and storm drains. Sorry about the sloppiness, I was in a rush.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote



New town maptiles. Thoughts? A warning: it's very rough around the edges right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The contrast is much better in your dark house scene.

Your new houses hurt my eyes though. The windows, the door, and the side rimmings all are radically darker than the bright concrete. You did draw it very nicely, though.
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