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bis_senchi · Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 460 Location: Reims, France

I'm using a vehicule called wander area to prevent my npcs from going too far away from their starting location.( I'm found this method on the wiki and fund it useful because it saves npcs.)

Here are the characteristics of the vehicule

- override walls: default
- blocked by A
- mount from A
- dismount from A

I've placed b all around the npc and told custom it was the vehicule wander area. I've also activated the bitset enable npc activation and dismount one space ahead.

My problem is the following: the b wall does not have effect. The npc pass through whereas I told custom it was a vehicule that coudn't.

Would anybody gets an idea that could explain why the vehicule is not blocked by B?
Thank in advance for help and advice.
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Uncommon · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject:

Well, if it's blocked by A, then it shouldn't have any problem walking over B.

TMC · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:00 am Post subject:

That's totally wrong. NPCs set as vehicles act as vehicles ONLY when the hero mounts them. Otherwise they act like normal NPCs and ignore the fact that they are set as a vehicle.

Which page on the wiki says that? It should be corrected.
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TwinHamster · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:36 am Post subject:

So the player can get piggy-back rides from random NPCs?

bis_senchi · Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 460 Location: Reims, France

Is there a way to make fake npc mounting with a free hero for example? If the vehicule npc think there is a hero ridding the walls may stop the npc.

If it is not possible, could you explain why?
I'm searching for a way that would prevent npcs from going too far away from their starting location but without using free npcs. It think it is possible using global variables and X, Y tileset detection.

Any suggestions for line codes?

Thanks in advance for the help!
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TMC · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:26 am Post subject:

Not, it's not really possible, and if it were, it would be a bad way to do it.

The best solutions, if you absolutely can not spare any npcs are:

-write your own wander script for the npcs
-put walls around the npcs and write your own movement script for the hero which ignores those walls
-wait for the engine to support more npcs
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TwinHamster · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:13 am Post subject:

I just can't believe that you can't spare a single npc to be used as a wall. I mean, is that one npc really important enough to make custom walking scripts for each npc?

Inferior Minion · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:40 am Post subject:

Bob the Hamster · Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject:

Someday we are just going to have to break down and hard-code in a feature to do this.

bis_senchi · Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 460 Location: Reims, France

Ok! that's a good to know that it's not possible.
Anyway I have another problem: my hero fight against a unbeatable monster and then is saved by a group of 3 mysterious personns. Could somoene remind of the order of the swap command.

I also want to precise that's while a cutscene and that the main hero has he stay whereit is on the screen. The player musn't realize that the main hero have changed. Any idea about how to that?

As always thanks in advance for the help!
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bis_senchi · Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 460 Location: Reims, France

The Mad Cacti wrote

msw188 · Joined: 02 Jul 2003 Posts: 1041

I was going to say have an NPC with the same visual as the hero, but there would be problems about where to put it versus where the three mysterious persons appeared when they were swapped in to the party. Better would be to have NPCs of the persons, have them appear around the hero using Create NPC, and then fade the screen to white before the battle begins. Then do all of your hero swapping while the screen is faded white, which will look like the battle starting to the player.
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Raekuul · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject:

Just swap in a visual hero copy of the hero.
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bis_senchi · Joined: 08 Jun 2004 Posts: 460 Location: Reims, France

Well I won't like not to fade screen if possible. I've noticed in some script that you could tell that such hero (me) is npc (let's say 14 for example)

Has somoene heard something about this? If it is possible then it means that you can tell to the ohr through plotscripting that npcs 14 is hero (me)

Anyway thanks for help and advice!
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