Castle Paradox

[Camdog]

[Inferior Minion]

[FyreWulff]

Once the topic has died down, I think it would be safe to unsticky it. If someone wants to make a last minute comment or continue the discussion, then they can reply to it if they really want to, even if the bookclub is on another game.

[Onlyoneinall]

[Battleblaze]

Lez get it starded mayn (mexican accent)
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[TwinHamster]

[Onlyoneinall]

Well yeah, but if everyone spends time working on their projects and no one spends time working on their reviews, everyone will have projects they put a lot of effort into and will have no one who is willing to take the time to review anything, leaving a bunch of projects with no reviews at all.
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[Moogle1]

Yeah... that's kind of how things work around here. Most of my games have no reviews. That doesn't mean they were unappreciated. It does mean I won't stop talking about them, though, but expecting huge discussion about your game is kind of unreasonable unless you've put out something really earth-shattering. A good indicator of earth-shatteringness is that your game can carry itself outside of the OHR community (and that game still hasn't gotten a review).

It's very frustrating to have made a good game and received so little response. I empathize, but you should know you're in good company as far as that goes.
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[DomGallo]

I've said it before really, but I think part of the problem could be a lack of a general discussion forum. (Excuse me if you will, for veering a little off topic, but I think this is a discussion worth pursuing). In a way, we've gotten what certain people in the community have always wanted.

Everyone in the community right now either makes games, used to make games, or is working on the engine. And I think that's the problem. Instead of having 100 people PLAY your game, you've got 100 people beta-testing your game. They're not looking at your minigame and thinking "Oh wow, I'm riding a horse through the forest!", they're thinking "Oh, I would've used a for loop instead of a while loop, and the keys should be more responsive!"

We're all magicians here. We all know just how we've got the bird tucked up each others sleeves, and that the rabbit was in the hat the whole time. If we really want to get lots of downloads, and positive response on our games, what we need are suckers. People who aren't used to making RPGs, people who'll be easily impressed, and then want to make their own games.

The best way to get those people here is a general discussion board. Someplace we can talk about all kinds of things, including popular RPGs for the various consoles. That might get us some traffic in from Google.

I've kind of lost my train of thought here, but what's killing us is that everyone is a game designer, an expert, that there isn't anyone who just sits down and enjoys RPGs anymore. I can't even really get into FF6 anymore, I just start thinking of how Evade and M. Evade are the same stat, or some other piddly little thing, and it drives me nuts.
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[TwinHamster]

[Moogle1]

"Single player mode"? Are you talking about the Civilian class or is there some extra functionality in the game that I don't know about? Because if there's a multiplayer mode, that's totally the most awesome thing that ever spontaneously happened to any game, you know.

I never tested the Civ class, so all I know is that it's a lot stronger than the other classes. You're taking a big hit on turns, though, which can make a big difference on battles like the Necrolyte, though that one's completely optional.
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[TwinHamster]

I meant to say single-hero-mode, Civilian. I'm kind of stuck at the second boss where you have to face all of the other heroes.

[Moogle1]

Ooh, that's gonna be a tough one, all right. I don't really remember what abilities Civilian has anymore, but I'd think a couple of Nova2s would get rid of most of the baddies. Wizard Clone is probably your biggest threat in that battle, since he can cast Death if you're unlucky and his other abilities aren't much friendlier. If Nova2 doesn't kill the Wizard in one go, you're pretty screwed for that fight.

The other way to go is to try Stun2 on the first round. I'm not sure if Stun will even help when you've only got one player on the rotation, but if it does and it buys you an extra turn, then you should be set for the battle. A third, somewhat quirky option is to start the battle with Rasp2. If it takes away about 50 MP each, then you've automatically eliminated their nastiest attacks, including Death and Critical3. (This could actually work!)

Of course, I'm basing these strategies on abilities that Civilian may or may not have. The only one I'm sure I gave to Civ is Nova2.

Anyway! To get this somewhat back on topic, I think Giz is right on his diagnosis. There used to be a lot more game players here. Now it's all game makers, wannabe game makers, and engine programmers. I'm not sure if a gen disc forum would do anything about this, but it's still very perceptive.
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Slime Salad :: Independent Game Design

[Battleblaze]

OK IZ EVERYBODY DONE OR WAT?
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[Camdog]

Easy killer. Two weeks, so discussion will start tomorrow.