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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Granted he's not all that good, but he's gotten better since he first started posting his stuff. And while it may be second class work, it's more than most people have to show around here.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, there is no way you can say someone is totally, unconditionally without talent, as you just said about Eggie. He may not be GOOD at what he does, but the only time when you can even IMPLY that someone is talentless is when they suck AND do not try. Now, I've been following Eggie's work for MUCH longer than you, and he has improved MASSIVELY. Yes, his stuff still does not meet my approval, but if you look at his old art then look at this, it's like looking at Eggie now vs. Lucier.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me wrote:
Okay, there is no way you can say someone is totally, unconditionally without talent, as you just said about Eggie. He may not be GOOD at what he does, but the only time when you can even IMPLY that someone is talentless is when they suck AND do not try. Now, I've been following Eggie's work for MUCH longer than you, and he has improved MASSIVELY. Yes, his stuff still does not meet my approval, but if you look at his old art then look at this, it's like looking at Eggie now vs. Lucier.


No, talent is the ability to not suck. And Eggie's art sucks, despite his best efforts. Thus, Eggie is talentless. Your definition of talent is wrong. Trying has nothing to do with it.

Also, if his stuff does not meet your approval, say so. This "Oh...it looks, um, good!" policy in this forum doesn't help anyone. The artist isn't getting the full extent of the critisism he needs, and you end up looking like an overprotective mother.

PS: In regards to that horrible string of text in your signature, Hitler had lots of spirit too.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, I love how you're a fucking cock, Durandal.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Durandal, do us a favor and fuck off. If you don't have something constructive to say, and you obviously don't, then keep your mouth shut. I agree that criticism is always something that should be given when evaluating artwork or something similar, but the criticism should be CONSTRUCTIVE, and what you are doing is bashing the hell out of his work. It may not be all that hot, but that does not give you the right to tear it to shreds. If he put hard work into it, then he deserves credit for it, even if it is a piece of shit (and, Eggie, those graphics aren't pieces of shit, but they aren't all that hot, but everyone's already said what I would have said, except Durandal, so follow their advice).

And for the record, if you're going to act like that, I'd like to see you post some of your own work.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Talent just rfers to innate ability. People can overcome lack of talent through hard work. Also, acting like a cocksucker and insulting someone without offereing any help whatsoever isn't the way to make them improve either. Unless you call what you're doing "criticism", in which case i'd have to say you reallly suck at criticism.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might say he has a total lack of talent in the criticism department.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MultiColoredWizard wrote:
Wow, I love how you're a fucking cock, Durandal.


I love how you just showed up to insult me.

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Talent just rfers to innate ability. People can overcome lack of talent through hard work. Also, acting like a cocksucker and insulting someone without offereing any help whatsoever isn't the way to make them improve either. Unless you call what you're doing "criticism", in which case i'd have to say you reallly suck at criticism.


Eggie's hard work sure has paid off. Or not. Also, I do not suck at critism, it's just literally everything about those sprites are bad, and this was the easiest way to communicate that fact. You and I know it. You're just starting to admit it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dunno Knoodles. I think you're the only one who's here to insult people for no reason. Go figure.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MultiColoredWizard wrote:
I dunno Knoodles. I think you're the only one who's here to insult people for no reason. Go figure.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duran Duran, you can make up all the excuses you want, your "crticism" is still totally worthless.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ummm . . . no. Eggie's sprites have quite a few thinks going for them. He actually uses shading, and uses it correctly for the most part. Seriously, his sprites are FAR better than some others I've seen. For example, Logan's Quest. Or perhaps Final Fantisy 0 (yes, it's spelled that way). Or, if we go on a purely technical basis, ARFENHOUSE!!!1!!!.
So, not everything about his sprites are bad. Sorry to ruin your fun, but you're WRONG, bucko.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said, show us what you've done. Until then, kindly have a nice tall glass of DIEPLZTHX and shut the fuck up. You're not getting anywhere except closer to a ban.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why isn't he banned yet? It was obvious after reading one of his posts that he's an idiot.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because I'm too nice, and he's got two strikes, not three.
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