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madhatter
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never had to use keys to draw a picture...sounds like torture. One time I used one of those pen-tablet things, but it was horrible. My pictures always showed up way out of proportion on my computer when I used it, and I just generally couldn't draw without being able to see my picture where my pen was, so I stick with the mouse.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't use computer related software to draw...
use traditionally pen/pencil and paper.
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Uncommon
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually prefer to use the OHR Maptile Editor to make cutscenes (well, color them, really; I draw them in pencil), since I don't much like the mouse. I don't know, does that make me weird?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always used pencil and paper to draw pictures, 'cuz the only stuff I draw on the computer is OHR-related graphics. Other than OHR graphics, my computer art isn't worth a dime.
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Komera




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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can tell you, i much prefer using a tablet/stylus (btw, the stylus is the pen looking part) over a mouse. i'll quote one of my art books: "drawing with a mouse is like drawing with a bar of soap." the stylus has a much more natural feel to me.

the best way to keep your figures properly proportioned when drawing them on a computer is to first draw guidelines in a light color. best to draw them with the pic zoomed out, then zoom back in to make the dark lines, and erase the light lines.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Komera wrote:
"drawing with a mouse is like drawing with a bar of soap."

Too true, too true. I've never understood how one can draw with a mouse. Of course, maybe that's just because I've always had old crappy mice that don't work well, but tablets work the best for me.
Of course, nothing beats sketching in pen in my notes during Anthropology. Some of my best art is in the margins of that little book.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dislike mice. If I could get a real paintprogram that used the keyboeard, that would be awesome 'cos a stylus sounds like it might be expensive.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I bought my tablet about seven years ago, and it was $450, so that means it's probably $-3 today... Rule #one: never invest in technology early on...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my first stylus (wacom) back in 1998 cost close to $400. my second one, the one i prefer because it actually works inside the ohr editor (also a wacom), is from late 2001 and alphaknight tells me he paid roughly $60 for it. (he was buying me a replacement because an accident nearly severed the cord of the first)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the pixelated stuff I've drawn (http://shadow_iii.tripod.com/teaser.gif and http://shadow_iii.tripod.com/teaser2.gif to name examples) were with the mouse in the OHR. With the mouse. Yes, it was a living hell, yes I am beginning to see the light of the keyboard now. Currently I only use the keyboard to outline with black and too do most of the NPC's, but all the enemies and heroes are with the mouse.

As for cutscenes, I CG them then import them, even if it does make them look crappy. Photoshop is my best friend.

As for "Bob: The Early Years" that is freaking awesome. I agree with Komera: I want a Bob the Hamster stuffed animal!

*realizes what he's just said and that he is a 17-year-old Male*

Erm...for my girlfriend.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i said that?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the old server. :p
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh, okays.

in old age, memory is the first thing to go... and i don't remember what the second thing was...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

uncommon, i seriously doubt anyone will consider that wierd...
I do that as well (well, mainly coz i hate colouring in with pencil)
I'd prefer the original in black and white, but to do that is to redraw a second copy or scan and colour after scanning it into the computer.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shadowiii, you did all that with the mouse!!?!?!

*stunned*

That must have been torturous! How...how...brutal. I would never do that. Well, I used too, but I discerned the virtue of the keyboard early on.

Actually, just about all of my tilesets are drawn outside of the OHR, using Ultimate Pain(t).

It's actually a pretty good program. It was difficult to get used to as first, because of the oddness of its setup, but then I really grew close to it. Nearly everything can be done with the keyboard (except for moving the cursor, zooming [Pissed off!], and toggling from paste to 'normal' mode). All of the controls have keystrokes, I can move from picture to picture using keystrokes, it's pretty nice. Not as good as Photoshop, probably, but it's free! If only it had keyboard zooming...
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