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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:28 pm    Post subject: Any non-confusing music programs? Reply with quote

I've searched numerous sites (the OHRRPGCE Wiki included) for non-confusing music programs, and found none. I've tried Audacity, Anvil Studios, and some other one where it was easy and functional, but they made you buy the music you make! D: Any suggestions?

Oh, and by "complicated" I mean "using sheetmusic, not including a ReadMe, or having you download/buy tons of stuff just so you can make something."


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did you find confusing about Anvil? It would generally be my first recommendation. If that doesn't suit there are many other programs available, one of which is Rosegarden for Linux, if that's any use to you.

If you're prepared to spend serious money, which you mightn't unless you're a professional, there is always Sibelius/Finale, which are more typesetting programs than midi sequencers, but they're fantastic. Also cost a bomb too, around £500 sterling.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jabbercat wrote:
What did you find confusing about Anvil? It would generally be my first recommendation. If that doesn't suit there are many other programs available, one of which is Rosegarden for Linux, if that's any use to you.

If you're prepared to spend serious money, which you mightn't unless you're a professional, there is always Sibelius/Finale, which are more typesetting programs than midi sequencers, but they're fantastic. Also cost a bomb too, around £500 sterling.
Anvil is just...unwieldy. When I make a note, it's reeeeeaaaalllly long. I don't want it to be reeeeaaaallly long. And I don't have Linux, and I'm not going to spend money. No WAY. D:
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only played around with Rosegarden on a few occassions, but it seems like something you may like. Try this Linux distro which comes with Rosegarden (and a lot of other music software) preinstalled and configured. It can be run off of the disc, so you don't have to install it on your computer.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distro? So...I can run Linux on my Vista? Cool. :o *runs program*
EDIT: I downloaded it, but how do I, like, USE it? I'm assuming I use autorun.bat, but what do I do from there? I recognise the command prompt, but what does it want me to type in? Oookay...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Distro = Distribution. There's a lot of different "flavors" of Linux available, many of them free.

It doesn't run in Vista. You'll download a CD or DVD image file, which you'll need to burn to a writeable CD or DVD using a program like CDBurnerXP (also free) You'll then need to boot from the disc (which is usually just leaving the disc in the drive as the computer starts up) and your computer will run Linux after start-up.

Musix if what is known as a "Live" Distro, which means that it can run straight from the disc. You can install Musix on your hard drive if you would like. There is an icon that will launch a program that will take you through the installation process. It will require repartitioning your hard drive to make room for the installation, so you will have less hard disk space in Windows as a result.

I will warn that while I think Musix does a fairly good job of being user friendly as far as the music programs go (though there are some rough patches of English every now and then as the creator is Portugese) Linux itself is a very different beast from Windows. (Which is the reason I personally don't use it on a regular basis.) I suggest this distro because it comes with all of the libraries needed to run the pre-installed programs ready to go, which makes life much easier.

EDIT:

Also, I'll explain how to write an .iso to a disc using CDBurnerXP, since many people make the mistake of just copying the .iso file on the disc.

After starting CDBurnerXP, you'll see the option "Burn ISO image." You'll then need to click on the "..." button and navigate to where you saved the Musix .iso file. The rest of the default settings should be fine, so just stick in a blank CD/DVD and hit Burn Disc. The image will then be placed on the disc, and you should be able to boot from it after restarting your computer.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you may just be interested in MP3 stuff, but if you do any MIDI work, I've found the free version of Noteworthy Composer to be one of the best tools to use. It says you can only save a file 10 times, but all you have to do is copy and paste your work in a new document and you can save an infinite amount of times.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Calehay wrote:
It doesn't run in Vista.
Ah, there's my problem. No, no, no... Well, then I'll use MeatballSub's idea. Hmm...MeatballSub...I'm hungry. X)
EDIT: I have to remove it from my computer after 30 days if I don't purchase the full edition, according to the liscense, but it doesn't say I can't uninstall it when I opt out of buying the full edition and then re-install the trial edition. Happy See, I read the agreement.
EDIT2: Oh, well, it uses sheet music, which I don't understand. So I can't use it. Sad...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, score is confusing!?



Treble Clef:
Spaces: F A C E
Lines: E G B D F
Middle C on the first line below the E

Bass Clef:
Spaces: A C E G
Lines: G B D F A
Middle C on the first line above the A



It's pretty important to read sheet music.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jabbercat, maybe you misunderstood me. I know about the height of the note indicates its pitch, but what I don't know is what the difference is between the circular notes, the notes with lines sticking out of them, etc.

Anyway, I'm not interested in learning sheet music, either.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quick google search can tell you all you need to know about the pitch's duration, but really, why wouldn't you want to learn to read sheet music?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jabbercat wrote:
A quick google search can tell you all you need to know about the pitch's duration, but really, why wouldn't you want to learn to read sheet music?
Quick search? Then I'll do it. X)
EDIT: Made a short song. Once I convert it to .midi, I'll upload it to somewhere and post it here. Happy
...Alright, Mediafire's being mean, so I uploaded it to WillHostForFood. Download.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can actually upload your midi files right here to castleparadox.

I tried to listen to the song you posted, but it was an nwc file, not a midi file (I assume nwc is Noteworthy Composer's format?)
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James Paige wrote:
You can actually upload your midi files right here to castleparadox.

I tried to listen to the song you posted, but it was an nwc file, not a midi file (I assume nwc is Noteworthy Composer's format?)
Yeah. I can't convert it because it's not a music file. I'll fiddle around with it and see if I can get it to work.
EDIT: Nope. Export is only for registered users. I have the free edition. T-T Well, if you want, you can download the trial version, listen to the song, and, if you want, uninstall it afterwards.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can change the duration of notes in Anvil pretty easily, no?

I'm still really interested in why you don't want to learn to read music.
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