Castle Paradox

[Blazes Battles Inc.]

[Octopussy]

Get this:

The main character, Frodo, is a dishonroed monk. That is why he is blue. He looks up in the sky and so the story begins of his fantasy. It is the Fantasy Over the Blue Monk.
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[Iblis]

Frodo? have you no shame?

Ripping off FUABMX is one thing, but it's a whole nother story to rip off JRR.
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[planethunter]

On the topic of colours... again.

First of they were only guidelines, and I suggested them because I felt that
one should take some time and plan carefully. The main reason for this is
because main charcaters will undoubtably be featured for most of the
game. All I ment was that colours aren't a big deal, but if the player has to
stare at them for hours, then plan it. Alles klar?

I'll give the italics a rest... for now.

Octo, come on! nobodies going to buy the whole 'frodo' thing,
my only hope is that this cliche of game makes sense aside
from the fact of ripped ideas.
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[MultiColoredWizard]

[Iblis]

Personality definitely does dictate the clothes we wear, but we don't pick colors to go along with our personality. If one has a bad temper, they won't necessarily wear all red. If someone is extremely passive, they won't necessarily wear all blue.

Take me for example: I'm an optimist and a pacifist, and yet most of my clothes are black. Personality dictates the clothes, but just not in such specific rules as planethunter is stating.
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[Blazes Battles Inc.]

[Shadowiii]

Clothes are key. Did you ever know no Final Fantasy final boss ever wears pants? And that almost all heroes tend to have their left shoulder armored but not their right?

Clothing is WHAT MAKES THE PERSON. There is no denying it.
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But enough talk, have at you!

[Cube]

Indeed. At least, when it comes to game design. It's very hard to come up with a memorable, original face. Sometimes hair styles play a role in character design, but a lot of the time it's the clothing that is focused on the most. The clothing gives the characters in a game individuality, and allow the player to remember them, and recongise them. And you can't forget that the colors on the character's clothing often represents their innar feelings and personality.

I mean, Zidane would be weird if his clothes weren't those nice teal and blue colors. Imagine him in ANY other color, and it just seems wrong. It doesn't match his personality at all. Try it with any other character you can think of. It makes a huge difference, eh?

And just to point it out. FF didn't invent the "Black and White Magic" thing. People have LOOOONG been calling Wizards and Witches people who practise the "black arts". They were "supposedly" able to cast magic, like bring out fire to burns stuff and what not. White has also been used in the past in the same manner, and I'm sure you can figure that out.

[Blazes Battles Inc.]

I actually don't remember what Zidane looked like. I do remember his childish face with the more-normal-than-usual-in-FF-games hair. And the tail. Of all the FF characters I remember, the only ones whose clothes I can remember off the top of my head are Vivi/ANY BLACK MAGE and Steiner/ANY TRADITIONAL KNIGHT. I remember a ton of faces, though.

Shadowiii, you just posted two cliches.

Cube, clothes DO allow someone to recognize them (since they're wearing them the entire game, I'd remember almost any FF character by their clothes if I actually saw a picture) but that doesn't mean they have to reflect their personality. In fact, that's one of the most unrealistic things I've ever heard. Realistically, the characters wouldn't even wear the same clothes throughout the entire game. Does that mean their personality would change? No. There are some games where a character's appearance changes based on what armor the character is wearing. Does their personality change with the armor? No.

As for it not being right for Zidane to have anything other than blue clothes (other than I don't remember what they looked like in the first place) because it wouldn't fit his personality, it's more like it wouldn't fit your own memories of what he looked like. After seeing anything looking any one way for as long as you've seen it, it would most definitely not seem right for it to look differently. It just doesn't fit in with your memory. Since I don't remember what his clothes look like at all, all I have is his face, his size (which is basically that of a young teenager), the fact he has a tail, and his personality. I can put a bunch of different outfits to that which wouldn't seem odd to me.

And another note about the unrealisticness of it, if any of the heros had half a brain they would change their clothes after getting some bad guys mad at them. They would have to say 'Look for such and such, last seen in blue clothes' instead of 'Look for such and such, ALWAYS in the blue clothes which we will now provide a drawing and description of for you. Since no one else in this world wears clothes like them, it should be pretty easy for you to pick them out from a distance and cause some trouble for them.'

See, the point is that you're talking about video game stories and video game characters here. If you read a good book, which will have a MUCH more realistic story with MUCH more realistic characters, you'll find that people actually change their clothes, and very few of them (I believe I've seen two, well, not including soldiers who HAVE to wear uniforms) will always wear even SHADES of the same color. This is also true of real people.

So colors don't really matter that much in regard to a person's personality (except for their immediate feelings, black for mourning, etc.). Unless you want to say that most of the people on the planet have no real personality because they wear different colored clothes often, the argument that colors or styles HAVE to refer to a person's individuality holds little water.

EDIT: Actually, after some thought, I remembered Sephiroth's clothing, Cecil's clothing, and Shadow/ANY NINJA's clothing. I also remember the FF1 characters clothings, but uh... they were kinda incredibly basic, and, sad as it may be, I remember them more from 8-Bit Theater than anywhere else anyway.
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[MultiColoredWizard]

[Aethereal]

Good examples of characters that'd look different in different clothing can be seen throughout various games; look for certain events where the characters change outfits for some reason (two examples from FF6: The opera scene, and when Gau meets his dad)
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[Setu_Firestorm]

*shields his eyes*

AHHH!! DEY RNT WEARIN N E PANZ! OO MAH IIIZ R BURNIN!1!
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[msw188]

Most of my shirts are white, but that's mostly to deflect the heat of sunlight.
Cube, I'd just like to say that the Black Arts dealt with plenty more than what FF1 called black magic, but that's not to say that your point is incorrect. But in any case, this provides clear evidence that color does supply some idea to the mind besides just the color itself. In video games, I find myself wondering just how important color of characters is. The more I think about it, the more important I'm thinking it is, at least in a very distant sense. What I mean is that because video games are so based on the visual (you don't get to hear the person's voice, or if you do it's not realistic enough to give you an impression of them) that the color of a character can't help but add a great deal to the impressions that you will get. Nevertheless, I think that any amount of good dialogue can color a character better than any clothes can (and it can color over whatever color they are wearing). Color just seems to be the main non-dialogue element that can cause people to get an impression of a person.
PS: Is there a good synonym for impression? I got tired of typing it so much, but I couldn't think of a better, or even equal, word for my meaning.

[planethunter]

Cube's right, I mean clothes do matter, in terms of games. The player will have to stare at them for most of the game. So at least choose clothes
that reflect the character. I my game, you can customise your appearance,
so the player can't complain. Though when it's ready I-do-not-know.

I guess the clothes people choose unconsciously reflect a persons mood.
But I don't think that emotion can be simply defined, for some pain is
pleasure, so there is no universal code. Only gestures are universal,
take the smile for instance, no matter what your race, religion, sex,
background or language you automatically understand the meaning of
a smile. But, appearances can be decieving, when a sales clerk smiles
and says "have a nice day" you know she's saying this because of company policy rather than her joy to witnessing a sale.

I hope that made things clear ... for now at least. :¬)

oh and blazes battles inc. : first off if hero's clothes look different to you
then that does not actually mean that the are different in the game.
I mean no matter how strange their clothes are, it might still be the
norm. Besides such original clothing should be praised, I mean would
you like if every game character you played as wore blue jeans and
a white t-shirt? The reason why most people play games is to escape,
to escape from the normalities that is boring real life.
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