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The Wobbler




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If any of the admins do look at this thread, is there any chance of revamping the Game List so that it doesn't take forever to load, even on a fast connection? How can people with dialup even view it?
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Battleblaze
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

works fine on my 56k
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Newbie_Power




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha! Nooby McButts!

*ahem*

I tried to see if Inferior Minion was on IRC, but failed. I don't plan on PM'ing him since Battleblaze already did, most likely (there's no reason not to, heh).

Still, even with more admins/mods, Spambots will still be a problem, as stated by this forum thread, and they have 3 times as many mods as this forum does. The best thing to do is to ignore the spam bots and let the community run itself. If someone ends up causing enough trouble that it warrants a mod's attention, then enough people will probably end up PM'ing the mod where it floods his inbox.
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Battleblaze
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't PM him McButts...I never PM him....It's always just an odd coincidence that whenever I summom IM he always gets the message.

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Newbie_Power




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got pwned...

Except for the part where I talk about Spambots likely continuing to exist.
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The Wobbler




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie_Power wrote:
The best thing to do is to ignore the spam bots and let the community run itself.

What? That's terrible. It makes the site look awful when 99% of its users are bots. There's no good reason not to delete them, and I know from using the exact same forum software that it takes very little effort to remove them unless you've let it become the gigantic mess that it is here.

Of course they'll continue to exist, but that doesn't mean it should be completely ignored.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, they'll get deleted, but we can't rush the mods until they are so. It's not magic "ZOMG a spambot!" and it's dead 5 seconds later and people don't notice. Just give the mod some time.

And by "community running itself", is that since we have so little mods, we'll have to regulate some threads ourselves, such as trying to keep J.A.R.S in line or ignoring a troll until a mod arrives.

Man. I always have to explain myself because my previous post sucks. I need to get myself in line.
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The Wobbler




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Newbie_Power wrote:
No, they'll get deleted, but we can't rush the mods until they are so. It's not magic "ZOMG a spambot!" and it's dead 5 seconds later and people don't notice. Just give the mod some time.

I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take months/years to delete them. Look at the last few pages of the "Recent Members" page.
Newbie_Power wrote:
And by "community running itself", is that since we have so little mods, we'll have to regulate some threads ourselves, such as trying to keep J.A.R.S in line or ignoring a troll until a mod arrives.

Neither of these seem to have worked.


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Newbie_Power




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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah. You're talking about the bots themselves. I was thinking, "Why are the spambot threads such a bad thing? They're easy enough to ignore."

I guess so many spam accounts is a bad thing, but I haven't even noticed it before.

EDIT: Screw it. I'm beside myself today. Just ignore whatever advice I tried to give in the nazi-trying-to-make-the-mod's-life-easier way.
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Fenrir-Lunaris
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Summon Post Reply with quote

PHC wrote:
I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take months/years to delete them. Look at the last few pages of the "Recent Members" page.


Two clicks, according to IM. Every user who registered but never posted or uploaded any games/reviews/music has been deleted. Frankly, I'm surprised clearing the list was that easy. Exclamation

Also, and this is probably the wrong place to mention this, but perhaps someone should round up a dedicated group of OHR enthusiasts and try to find a lot of the old OLD community members, if only to say "remember that old game making engine you used to play with?-Look at it now!". If anything, THAT would gather some more interest in the engine itself. I mention this, because I've recently seen some old names show up, such as Jude-The-Rat, and Zetes (I think). Anybody who remembers them on the forums has been here a LONG time.

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Inferior Minion
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 10:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Summon Post Reply with quote

Fenrir-Lunaris wrote:
PHC wrote:
I'm pretty sure it shouldn't take months/years to delete them. Look at the last few pages of the "Recent Members" page.


Two clicks, according to IM. Every user who registered but never posted or uploaded any games/reviews/music has been deleted. Frankly, I'm surprised clearing the list was that easy. Exclamation

Also, and this is probably the wrong place to mention this, but perhaps someone should round up a dedicated group of OHR enthusiasts and try to find a lot of the old OLD community members, if only to say "remember that old game making engine you used to play with?-Look at it now!". If anything, THAT would gather some more interest in the engine itself. I mention this, because I've recently seen some old names show up, such as Jude-The-Rat, and Zetes (I think). Anybody who remembers them on the forums has been here a LONG time.


For clarification, I did not go through and delete all the bots. There are still bots in the memberlist. I only deleted all users who have never successfully logged into CP. I made the assumption that a valid registered user would login after registering. This does not eliminate any bots who have logged in. Cube and I do delete bots who create posts as soon as we see them.
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Fenrir-Lunaris
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, that would explain why some still exist. Still, it's a substantial number that you've whittled down. If there were a way to block the more obvious bots (the ones that advertise phenamine or draxiltor or whatever they're selling next) that actually have this information in their member information, I'm pretty sure you'd have done so by now.
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Battleblaze
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I was an old user I'd be happy to...

I think an easy thing to be would just look at the users with registred emails which leads me to my next Idea Pitch!



CP NewsLetter Email

Ok maybe its not revolutionary. But I know everynow n then I completly forget about upcoming events & contest start/finish dates. A simple Calender or Reminder email of current goings on would be awsome. And like whenever a new hamsterspeak is out I'd love to get an email link reminding me.

Doubly it would keep people attached to CP. Even if your not a regualr poster, having a mass email newsletter would keep us all standing toghether, and encourage people to participate whenever new projects come around.

If we take it one step further


We could collab with other indy game sites and have one big cool email mag, remember resonably septaweekly? I don't cuz I was like in 6th grade. But from what I can remember it was pretty tizight and kept the threads tight. While attracting new people.

NETWORKING DAMMIT

we MUST get our Sexy back!

Maybe there should be a CP ressurection subboard for a new user group?
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Jack
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not enough really happens in the world of CP that we'd need a newsletter to keep it all together. We do have a calendar on the front page, and it doesn't take too much energy to look for upcoming/ending contests. Hamster Speak releases the first of every month, which isn't at all hard to remember.

However, the one part of your mess of a post I did like was..

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We could collab with other indy game sites


It couldn't hurt to get the OHR better known to Indy/RPG sites, and advertisement is something that definitely needs to be concentrated on right now. Ya' know, rather than improving a site that doesn't really have community.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Summon Post Reply with quote

Fenrir-Lunaris wrote:
Jude-The-Rat
Quick comment, all I saw was this cause my name is Jude. Who's that?
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