Castle Paradox

Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

"I will always say that OHR games should be scored according to other OHR games, because even the best of them is worse than an average professional game"

in my reviews i standard the game i'm reviewing to independent games in general -- everything from magnus to the exile series. it may be that walthros has above-average graphics for an ohr game (although i'd contest that), but it's not graphically average within independent games in general (i.e., games that are not funded by anyone other than the author(s)). the same thing applies to gameplay.

for the walrus screenshot, yes, it's not an intro, but the setup of it is similar to the final fantasy 6 intros -- by intro i meant in ff6. but i could edit it to clear that up though, once i figure out how to edit reviews.
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The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

i would give a couple of ohr games above a 5 in gameplay and graphics -- for gameplay, sheep rancher would be one.

for graphics, there are things like evildead: timeline, or the last job.

important to note is that i don't judge graphics on screen resolution, frames per sprite, or color depth: i judge graphics on 'can i make sense of the screen? is it pretty? do the graphics look like what they are supposed to be? does it have a nice style?' etc. -- all of which are possible within the ohrrpgce's limitations of resolution and color and sprite sizes. for example, final fantasy 1, even though it has less colors than final fantasy h, i would still consider to have better graphics.
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The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

MultiColoredWizard · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 7:22 pm Post subject:

*COUGH*
All Capcom and SNK sprites use 16 colors. I totally disagree with the "oh, only 16 colors" argument. All of my sprites use up to 16 colors, OHR or not. Just look at my Mario SSB SVC style sprite. 16 colors. And then all of UZO's sprites. 16 colors. Here, I'll show you.

14 colors, if you decide to count.

If you count, there are 17. Thing is, the whip is a separate sprite.

16 colors. Though, there are really like 23 from UZO modifying the head and screwing up the colors. If you ignore these then there are 16.
Refer to http://www.dimondsoft.com/sprite.php.
Don't whine because you only get 16 colors. Several people have that limit and they do fine.

The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

Komera · Joined: 07 Feb 2003 Posts: 711

i don't think the issue being made was 16 colors or not... but rather the technique in question
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Fenrir-Lunaris · **WUT** Joined: 03 Feb 2003 Posts: 1747

Making good graphics with a palette of 1 million colors is easy. Making good graphics with only 16 colors (15 technically) is skill. If I could use millions of colors in the OHR, I probably would only do about 24 colors per sprite anyway. Most sprite artists prefer having only 16 colors to work with anyway, major companies included.

MultiColoredWizard · Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:55 pm Post subject:

The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

Me · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 12:43 pm Post subject:

Okay, if this aids the discussion at all, when I compare Walthros' graphics to other OHR games, I myself put it on the lower end of the spectrum. So, there's at least one person here who thinks that. No offense really intended at PHC, I just find I don't like the style of his graphics in Walthros. They just look . . . newbie-ish to me.
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The Wobbler · Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Posts: 2221

MultiColoredWizard · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:17 pm Post subject:

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