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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz_Man wrote:
Fyre, excellent review!

There is one thing, though. There IS music. Now, anyone with vdms would know this. And, in your case, with FyreVDMS, you should DEFINITELY be able to hear the music present in the game, what with your awesome programming skills. if you can't hear any music (Public domain, btw), it's obviously my fault and not due to shoddy programming on your part whatsoever.

Also, I see your review trying to poke fun at the fact that the majority of the games I've written music for haven't been released. Maybe I'm cursed... or maybe you've neglected to mention a few that were. (TF, for example) But hey, if it's a curse, and I originally wrote music for SOJ2, maybe that'd explain why we haven't seen THAT game yet.

EDIT: Also of note, excellent perception of the font! A man of your excellent computer knowledge could pick that out in no time! But... wait... oh... nevermind. It was Vampiress (Not Scream), a font I downloaded off of a webpage.... oops.


I didn't program VDMS. I asked around 7 people simultaneously if it was worth it to load the game up with VDMS, and they all said no. If you want me to correct the score for music, I will have the lower it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Stone wrote:
Fyre, why do you waste your life away by crusading against games that are OBVIOUSLY designed for humor rather than in depth gameplay? It seems that you have issues to work out if you can't get the joke, and it seems you have even more when you SO can't get the joke, that you have to crusade against everyone who DOES get the joke.

Cave of Riches is exactly like an IQ test I took which asks the same questions phrased differently over and over again, and your score is higher depending on how quickly you quit. If you, Fyre, are saying that the only way to win this game is to not play it, then it's a success, and even YOU enjoyed beating it. FUCKER.


COIM was designed for humor? Even in that department, it did not suceed. And I'm crusading against everyone who doesn't get the nonexistant joke? Suuuure. I wrote a review.. that's what people do when games are released, right? So what you're saying, is that it's not okay for me to review a game, but it's perfectly okay for you to criticize the review itself? And that's not an IQ test - that's a test of patience, and a lower score would be given for being a quitter. And I never said that, please do not words into my mouth, and even if I said that, it would still be a failure, and I did not even enjoy playing it, let alone beating it. Oh, and nice choice of words, there.

It's pretty obvious you have issues with me, and not the review, because neither you nor Jazz addressed it - you just ragged on me the entire time. Go get some integrity. It is never okay to make a game so that it shouldn't be played, as that's not game making at all. It's making a statement then backing down from your statement when people don't agree with it, instead resorting to your usual ad-hominem attacks.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Objection. Jazz did address the review, which, by the way, has a real "stick up my butt" attitude to it.

(Edit) "And I'm crusading against everyone who doesn't get the nonexistant joke?" This is not what he said.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moogle is right:
Jazz Man wrote:
Fyre, excellent review!

There is one thing, though. There IS music. Now, anyone with vdms would know this. And, in your case, with FyreVDMS, you should DEFINITELY be able to hear the music present in the game, what with your awesome programming skills. if you can't hear any music (Public domain, btw), it's obviously my fault and not due to shoddy programming on your part whatsoever.


However, other than that, I saw no problems with the review. Not bad.
Although you write:
Fyrewulff wrote:
Don't download this game off of Castle Paradox. Ask for it from me, and I'll send it to you, to keep it from getting any more download counts. And when you do ask me for it, I'll slap you in the face to bring you back to reality.

which I think implies that the only way to beat this game is to not play it. Also, Gilbert said
Rolling Stone wrote:
If you, Fyre, are saying that the only way to win this game is to not play it,

which doesn't put words into your mouth. The "if" in there means that it is how Gilbert has interpreted the statement, not that said quote is what you said.

Also, to clear one thing up, the reason I'm focusing mainly on you, Fyre, in this post is because I'm biased against you.

Actually, to try and retain a BIT of fairness, Jazz, you wrote this:
Jazz Man wrote:
Also, I see your review trying to poke fun at the fact that the majority of the games I've written music for haven't been released. Maybe I'm cursed... or maybe you've neglected to mention a few that were. (TF, for example) But hey, if it's a curse, and I originally wrote music for SOJ2, maybe that'd explain why we haven't seen THAT game yet.

which is basically an attack on Fyre, and is something YOU need to NOT DO.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey, man, I don't deny I attacked fyre. My questions, who gives a shit? Big grin

Fyre, stop trying to sound intelligent. You're simply recycling the same stuff we've all told to you for years now. Ad hominum? I believe I've accused you of this on many occasions. And others will agree that you are the biggest perpetrater (sp?) of said act.

Basically, I now insult fyre when I can simply because he has proven time and time again that logic doesn't work on him. So I've given up hope. I've tried quite a few times to be civil with fyre, and even help him out. But, when he starts a fight I don't agree with, he'd get pissy that I saw it differently and blow the whole thing. But again... he's fyre... who cares?

Also, because a game doesn't suit your humor, don't assume it's humorless. Because you didn't "get the joke" or realize there was one could possibly mean you just plain didn't get it, didn't like it, or *gasp* would rather not support me or any endeavors I accomplish.

Yes, this game was a joke. No, I didn't put much effort into it. No, it's not some IQ test or anything people are trying to rationalize it as simply to insult fyre. (By all means, go ahead and insult him in more obvious ways, as subtlety is usually lost on him)

Games by their very nature are designed to entertain. if you notice, in any definition of entertain, there is no minimum time of enjoyment. if it entertained someone for a few seconds, or a few hours, it still accomplished it's goal of being a game. A joke game, but a game, nonetheless.

"I asked around 7 people simultaneously if it was worth it to load the game up with VDMS, and they all said no." So... you reviewed a game, claiming it had no music, when you didn't even give the effort to try it out? I think that shows your lack of real intent to give this game an honest review (As your review was peppered with insults and such), seeing as you can't even load up VDMS to see for yourself if the game is worth loading with it. Point: You are a bad reviewer.

One more question... Fyre, you said "It's making a statement then backing down from your statement when people don't agree with it, instead resorting to your usual ad-hominem attacks." ...uh... what did I back down from?

I hate to drag this fyrefight out (not really... Big grin) but hey. Let's all enjoy CoIR for the magnificent milestone it truly is, huh? Big grin
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"It is never okay to make a game so that it shouldn't be played, as that's not game making at all."

Why not Fyre? Because you say so? That's not a good reason. Define what a game is and explain why it's never okay for a game to not be fun. I double dog dare you.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This bitch fighting is really stupid. Fyre took the game too seriously (why do you care???)

He badly reveiwed your game, thats his "freedom of speech" opinion on your game. Maybe hes the type of guy that likes hardcore RPGs and doesnt want to waste his time on a petty joke. Thats his problem. Not yours.

*you are all being very immature about this thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I realize he took my game too seriously. For that, we're all laughing at him, I can assure you.

yeah, you sure DO have freedom of speech, but not the freedom to freely insult whomever you want.

he didn't like the game... that's his problem. He insulted everyone, that's our problem.

He insulted me...:

Quote:
For someone who wrote the music for such epics as Destiny Calls, Quell, and Dude, Where's My Demo, this surely was a mistake.

(He is once again trying to start the whole DC vs. SOJ2 war. Sure, I've written music for games that haven't been released. I just found his tone insulting.)

He insulted everyone...:

Quote:
Don't download this game off of Castle Paradox. Ask for it from me, and I'll send it to you, to keep it from getting any more download counts. And when you do ask me for it, I'll slap you in the face to bring you back to reality.

(He's saying that the people in this community can't make decisions for themselves. He's trying to tell people that when you DO make a decision, it's stupid and deserves a slap in the face from him. (He's a short pudgy fat kid from the whitest trashiest section of Omaha... he couldn't back up such a claim) Sure this rational may seem flimsy, but hey. I can use Fyre's own style of logic against him, right?)

Despite this whole air of "I'm better than you lowlife scum", there was another good insult I laughed at for a few minutes.

Quote:
Go get some integrity.

(This is particularly funny coming from him. Big grin)

Meh, anyways, we all know/agree that Fyre is an idiot. He missed the obvious joke in a game, and refuses to laugh at it because he flat out doesn't like me. And THAT'S bias reviewing, Diane! Big grin
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't think it was very funny. But I also didn't think it was that bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) People should have as much freedom to download the
game as they have to write flaming reviews (or more freedom
since the word "flaming reviews" was used).

2) You can tell us who made those quotes by typing
in ="name" after the quote in the brackets (though it
doesn't matter in this case since we all know damn well
who said that. I'm just giving you advice for later times).

3) Who on earth is Diane?

Edit: Answer to number 3: twas a joke.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is retarded. I can't believe people are making such a big deal over this.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not just this, it's Fyre in general. In fact, I will go so far as to demand that Airship 2600 is taken off the gamelist because it's MY intellectual property and I never created a game file for it or anything, yet it sits there on the list. He may have the right to be a whiny cunt, but he doesn't have the right to steal my concepts and claim them for himself. I'd threaten him with magic lawyers, but I have faith that he'll do the right thing.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RS, you have faith that FYRE will do the right thing? ...you serious???

Anyone who dislikes Fyre should check out the post in the #ParadoxLounge usergroup about ops in #ParadoxLounge (The IRC channel).

If you're not in the usergroup, apply for it, and Gizmog will admit you. (Except... the obvious. Big grin)
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jazz_Man wrote:
RS, you have faith that FYRE will do the right thing? ...you serious???

Anyone who dislikes Fyre should check out the post in the #ParadoxLounge usergroup about ops in #ParadoxLounge (The IRC channel).

If you're not in the usergroup, apply for it, and Gizmog will admit you. (Except... the obvious. Big grin)


By the way, the best way to protest cake is to have it and eat it too.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, this is the stupidest bunch of banter off ever seen. fyre was obviously a moron about the whole music thing and taking the game wrong, but did u honestly stupe to the level of arguing with him?!? jeez...
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