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Royal




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Oh.. and I've noticed there's a lot of stuff in how-to-draw books involving having to draw a bunch of messy frames and circles and lines and stuff. Doesn't just having to think about doing all that stuff make you want to kill yourself? Fortunately, I've never done the frames thing in my life (or I might have killed myself already. You know me).


Heh you should instead try to use those fine advices, I think that your art need to mature abit before you actually find out that this stuff is excellent help for shapes, composition and anatomy.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never used those until a few years ago. They're not the art portion of art, they're just a tool. I think that up until recently what I was creating wasn't art as much as practice for art. And I'll feel that way about my current work about 20 years from now. The masters are able to represent life and stylize it at the same time. The frames and such are for the life representation part. You don't need them to create art that's interesting to look at, but they're extremely useful if you want any degree of realism. Although, Masamune Shirow (Ghost in Shell, Dominion Tank Police) doesn't use them at all, and he creates a... well an unrealistic look at the female anatomy, but still the most realistic I've seen in mainstream anime and manga. He draws people MOSTLY well proportioned, but it's required by law that anime girls have to have big boobies. I do appreciate that his female cop characters actually have muscle on them... from a, uh, artistic standpoint I mean... "Said Gilbert, known as the first OHRer to put pornography into a Christmas game."
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Royal




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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes of course you shouldn't use those tools for more then what they are, just tools. You can bend and break them as much as you want when you actually learn how to use them...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2003 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAHA, guess what, I'm back! No virus can keep me down!

As for circles and other things you find in How to draw... books, I use then when I need my subjects in complex poses. Although the only actual circle you'll find in my gesture drawings are in the head and neck (one big one to indicate the cranium, two for the eye orbitals, and one at the base of the neck)... everything else is ovals.
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