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Gizmog1 · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:40 pm Post subject:

I object to those modifications, on the grounds that it might drag my name through the gutter!

Moogle1 · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:

Inferior Minion · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:54 pm Post subject:

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Inferior Minion · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:

Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

Bug report: check out Sword of Jade -- it has 10 ratings, and I haven't yet rated it, but for some reason its rating box doesn't seem to appear. Is it set up so that once a game gets 10 ratings it no longer accepts ratings, or what? Where the box would be is just an empty spot for me, it doesn't have a number or the word 'rating' or anything.

http://castleparadox.com/gamelist.php?letter=s (last page)
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Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

Oh I see, you can no longer rate games that don't have a file to download.

However, SoJ does have a file to download, which it links to. I think you should allow ratings for all games which have a file to download even if that file is not hosted on CP.
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Iblis · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:27 am Post subject:

I had noticed this problem as well. To fix this, I suggest we allow ratings on games listed as "demo" or "final version," while not allowing ratings on games listed as "in production." This way games that are not released still cannot be rated, and games that are released can be rated whether they're hosted here or somewhere else.
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Gizmog1 · Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:46 pm Post subject:

Or maybe these games could upload a zip file with a .txt saying "The game can be found so and so, vote for me"

Inferior Minion · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:30 am Post subject:

I did a combination of the two, really.

If a game has a download, it can be rated. If a game is a demo or final, it can be rated. Otherwise, it cannot.
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Rinku · Joined: 02 Feb 2003 Posts: 690

I think there's a bug in the rating averaging math.

SoJ had 10 ratings, with a 3.90 average.

I gave it a 5.

SoJ now has 11 ratings, with a 3.91 average.

Call me crazy, but it seems like that change was way too small.

Example:

10*3.90 = 39
11*3.91 = 43.01

It treated my rating as it it were a 4 (increase from 39 to 43) rather than a 5. I.e. the new rating should have been 44/11, or 4.00.
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Inferior Minion · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:07 pm Post subject:

I just checked and the math is definitely correct. The total sum of all SoJ:PD reviews is 43, as you suggested. Perhaps someone changed their grade by a factor of 1 or you misread the total when it was really 3.8 prior to your contribution.
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LeRoy_Leo · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject:

Well, isn't it easy to copy the same basic idea from the Song rating system and use it here? I think so, and IM most likely did that. Should be flawless, because the Song rating system works like a charm.

Someone is probably giving the game a lower rating than it obviously has earned. Like say, some guest gives the game a 1 because he couldn't figure out how to open it or something stupid like that. A 5 would take the average up to around a 3 ish. Personally, I think, if people want to be immature and give undeserving games higher or lower ratings than the games deserve, it would be futile to try and govern them. After all, don't they have that right?
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Gizmog1 · Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:01 pm Post subject:

I don't like this talk about how a game "deserves" a higher rating. A game gets what it gets, and if someone really liked it 0 or 1 points worth, that's just the name of the game. Sure, we could do things like strike out the highest and lowest vote, or cancel out votes that don't seem fair, but all that would do in the long run, is create a system by which perceived greatness is better than real greatness, and people are afraid to voice any opinion against the grain. I think the system we have is fine, and should be kept.